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    film izlemek kitap okumak spor bir hobi değil?

    hobi üretim üzerine olmalı, kitap okumak film izlemek vs bir tüketim. enstrüman çalmak mesela bir sanatsal üretim. spor’da aynı şekilde bir üretme yok. tabii bahsetmiyorum bile müzik dinlemek, yürüyüş falan da hobi değil. bunlar dışında hobileriniz neler?

    1. offfffffff tamam senin dediğin gibi olsun 

    27 kasım 2020 11:09

    2. Sana ne ben hobi demeye devam edicem.

    27 kasım 2020 11:13

    3. Kitap okumak, film izlemek evet hobi değildir. Okuduğun kitapla ya da izlediğin filmle ilgili yazı yazmak hobi olabilir. Ama spor yapmak baya baya hobidir. (Spor=tenis, basketbol,futbol,voleybol vs) Herkesin zaten yapması gereken egzersizlerden bahsetmiyorum onlar hobi değildir evet.

    27 kasım 2020 11:20


    4. Sorunun cevabı yazdıkladınız mı bi kontrol edin?

    Hobileriniz neler diye sormadım 'film izliyorum süslüm forrest gump'ı öneririrmmm'  tarzı cevaplar gelmesin diye şimdi gelen cevaplara bak sözlük yorma be

    27 kasım 2020 11:21

    5. Eee kendince hobi olarak görmediğin şeyleri yazıp bunlar dışında hobileriniz ne diye sormak çelişki. Madem sorun bu değildi soru başlığına şöyle yazmalıydın; ortaya bir ürün koyabildiğim hobi arayışındayım sizinkiler neler? Bu anlatım becerisiyle sen daha çok yorulursun.

    27 kasım 2020 11:31

    6. A2 yanlış değil söylediklerim (link: https://www.idefix.com/Kitap/Tuketim-Toplumu/Arastirma-Tarih/Sosyoloji/urunno=0000000065448 buyur kaynak) alıp okursan neden tüketim odaklı uğraşların  hobi sayılamayacağını falan öğrenebilirsin. Boş zamanında yapmak zorunda olmadığın bir şeyi yapmak hobiyse oturup duvarı izlemek de mi hobi? aç olmadığım halde yemek yemem de hobi o zaman mecbur olmadığım halde uğraşıyorum sonuçta. 

    Her neyse ya konu bu değil tartışmayacağım hepiniz aşşırı hobi sahibisiniz netflix izlediğiniz için. Soruya cevabı olanlar yazarsa sevinirim

    27 kasım 2020 11:35

    7. Kitap 1970'de yayımlanmış, o zamanın hobi anlayışı ve bu zamanın hobi anlayışı arasında fark vardır. sanayileşme çağında, tüketmeyin arkadaşlar gelin üretelim mesajı vermeleri çok normal. senin şu anki normaline uygun değil. böyle kitapları yazıldığı zamanı göz önüne alarak değerlendirmek gerekir.

    27 kasım 2020 11:47


    8. yazarın ne kastettiğini anlamak önemli bence. aşağıya güzel bir inceleme bırakıyorum. gerçi soruyu başta akademik gibi almıştım, ama "x y z dışında ne hobiler önerirsiniz?" sanırım esas sorulmak istenen. Neyse, bulunsun, belki birinin işine yarar.

    "CONSUMPTION

    Baudrillard’s core idea is that an object has a symbolic value in addition to its use value and exchange value. Hyperreality, the virtual reality in which we live, structured by information and technology, is sustained on an amalgamation of elements which were previously separate, such as production and consumption, and by a dissipation of the system of values based on the illusion that economy and society have a defined meaning or any meaning at all (Baudrillard, 2001).

    Baudrillard’s theory on work was built gradually. In The System of Objects (1968), he

    methodically analyzed the relationship between humans and objects in a consumer society. He described how a “level of rationality of the object” engenders a meaning beyond its use, and so the system, which was previously technologically consistent, is no longer. The symbolic dimension caused the functional value to be replaced by a functional convention. The subjectivity of the attribution of value caused a meta-functionality in electronic medium, a function beyond its limits which, symbolically manipulated by advertising, resulted in an irresponsibility of the consumer for what he

    consumes.

    In the transition from an industrial (“metallurgic”) society to a symbolic (“semiurgic”) society,

    Baudrillard saw the work being conditioned to competition and to “personalization” (customization). Competition, under the sign of a purported freedom, transited from production to consumption. Being free is now “being able to consume whatever one desires.” Personalization created the illusion of originality, or exercise of a personal preference. In work, it established the illusion of a free choice of occupation.

    In the semiurgic society, the object lost its use value and its exchange value and reappeared as a function or sign value. The interest is not in the objects but in the system of signs which mirrors them.

    The sign or syntax is disassociated from the product and attaches to the end. To understand the contemporary world is to understand the message contained in its underlying system of signs. Then Baudrillard proceeded to a critique of the political economy of the sign not from productivity, but from “consumity” or consumption capacity. Consumption changes the signs and serves economy. As in the digestive process, the system needs the acquisition of goods and services to reproduce itself. Therefore,

    rationality was inverted, changing from the rationality of production to the rationality of consumption.

    Considering neither use nor exchange (the commodity), but the sign, implies to seek, instead of utility, the sign that the commodity conveys, the distinction, hierarchy and position in a society ruled by consumption. In The Consumer Society (1970, pp. 242-246), Baudrillard retrieved and synthesized his thought on work. Instead of buying and selling our working time, we now must buy spare time so that we may consume it. It is consumption, not production, that rules work. Work is not only a necessity, but an economic and cultural imposition.

    This is another illusion: spare time is the freedom to lose or kill time. The real value of time is to be lost. What makes us gain time is its empty use, is the truly spare time. But in consumer society, leisure time is consumed. It integrates the production system and follows an alienating logic. It creates a false identity, which is different from the identity denied by work.

    Leisure is a work. It became a waste, a byproduct of productive time. Leisure reproduces all

    constraints of productive time. It is idle time, but not free. Idleness, which was characteristic of the wealthy classes, became the “consumption” of useless time. Leisure generates a regression to past forms of work (bricolage, collecting, fishing, etc.).

    Leisure is a duty. Measured (vacation) time is not free, but attached to its distinction as an

    abstracted production time. Work is opposed to leisure, but leisure is not free. Non-working time is not a time for calmness, escape from the fatigue of working life, or rest, but acquisition time. What we call leisure is measured time, a time that does not exist in primitive societies; a holiday or vacation time. One must do things and go places. It is a non-productive time, but it generates values (status, prestige,

    etc.). It is neither work nor rest (Jung, 2000).

    Spare time has to be gained, whether by buying it with work or by saving work with technology and productivity. Leisure is the consumption of non-productive time. Leisure time is not free because we cannot lose it by simply doing nothing. In other words, we need to produce without meaning (a hobby) or consume without need (tourism).

    We live and work in the ambiguous and in the imaginary. A shopping mall is the utmost symbol of the sublimation of reality, both in the sense of “sublimation” in physics, of a direct change from the solid phase to the gas phase, and in psychoanalysis, of transformation of an impulse in a socially

    acceptable act. In a mall, money is made of plastic, the weather and light are artificially controlled, food and entertainment are permanently available and life is domesticated. All the complexity of human existence (the separation between work, leisure, nature and culture) became history. Everything has been digested and reduced to one and the same emptiness.

    In the consumer society, value is in the ideas, or in the signs of objects. Value is in the meaning that an object gives to existence, which is supplied from outside, culturally conditioned, codified and introjected by the media. The objects acquired are not those produced by the worker. He does not choose his clothing, living or transportation objects, but they are imposed by advertising. The technology of entertainment is the same as the technology of work. It follows a seduction scheme. It assumes a rational free choice, but there is neither choice nor liberation through consumption.

    Identities have ceased to be working identities (what one does for a living) and became

    consumer identities (how one lives). Individual relationships are relationships with groups. Satisfaction mixes with conformity. But the worker is not a passive victim of the system. He is a participant in the system. He is not a work force anymore, but a consumption force (Baudrillard, 1972). His work does not serve production, but the differentiating power of consumption. One works to acquire, and what one acquires is the work of others. Consumption is a social work, a duty to society."

    27 kasım 2020 12:21

    9. Resim yapiyorum. Kendi bloguma icerik uretiyorum ve kitap yaziyorum. Olduysa?

    27 kasım 2020 12:22

    10. Ben örgü örüyorum. Özellikle oyuncak örmeyi çok seviyorum.

    27 kasım 2020 12:26